Last but not least, are the 2 and 3 doing skip stop? First, is that, just as with the Second Avenue Subway, anything done would have to be in stages. As part of Contract 3 of the agreement, between New York City and the IRT, the original subway opened by the IRT in 1904 to City Hall,[12] and extended to Atlantic Avenue in 1908,[13] was to be extended eastward into Brooklyn. This would also take relief off of the (B)/(Q) trains to the west. subways or open cut sections. As you point out, the area already has subway service. Going further the stations could even be built by private developers who would get a height bonus for building the station. So are you proposing adding a branch that runs north of Eastern Parkway to Fulton St? Pseudo-viaducts. Few problems. Youve shown plans to underground the Ls el as well as the Fulton and Oh well, maybe that will help since Im taking the express trains away from Nostrand. Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), The Future of the Green Line: From Harvard and Needham to the Seaport, Unbuilt Highways of New York City and Robert Moses. More complicated than it needs to be. Better to have SAS Williamsburg via the 9th St storage tracks and SAS Fulton local as the obvious trunk line that needs new capacity. A hybrid of 1 and 6: The el is still over roadway The station listings are extremely far apart to where it barely serves any local communities on the route. And its not a good alternative to the Lex, for the East Side, since the Lex is both more direct and has express trains. The 2 track Worth St Line would require a 3.15 mile tunnel from Tribeca to Williamsburg. On a side note, the Rogers Street Junction needs to be rebuilt regardless of any extensions. And normal service would still be able to run. Despite his influence as Senate Majority Leader, the Utica Avenue subway may never leave the station. The Utica Avenue extension in particular has been proposed several times as part of the New York City Transit Authority's 1968 expansion proposals, in older pre-unification plans, and in the competing pre-unification expansion plans of the Independent Subway System (IND). In my futureNYCSubway plans over the years Ive always included Utica Ave in one form or another but one of the reasons I drew my NYC Subway Track Map was so I could see what I was really dealing with so we know what is really possible. The developers wrote that they raised all the station platforms so that a 1.5% grade would help the trains accelerate. The full-time side at the eastern (railroad south) end has two staircases from each platform going up to a crossover (the western ones go up to a ramp that leads to the main fare control area), where a turnstile bank and two exit-only turnstiles provide access to and from the station. Quickly checking the map I see the same 6 The 5 train doesnt run in Brooklyn on late nights and weekends. On the opposite side, from Eastern Parkway to Empire Blvd, the slope descends 66 feet. Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. And actually Flushing/Main might be up to 11th now depending on how much traffic SAS has pulled off of Lexington. Fake it. Well then what are we waiting for? But boring tunnels is much more common these days. I see no value in that whatsoever. [7] The outer track walls are made of tile and have a maroon trim line with a dark maroon border. On narrow right of way, place one track at ground level and the other above. SAS-Grand Central future awkward? In IND reports it was proposed to have the line remain as a subway until Ave J where it would ascend to the surface and run elevated, originally to Sheepshead Bay, then later a more simplified route down Flatbush Ave to Floyd Bennett Field. The I-beams and other steel work along the track walls are painted in dark blue. The Queens Blvd Line was extended to Union Turnpike on December 30th, 1936, and to 169th St. - Jamaica on April 24th, 1937. . This seems right as Fulton intersects cross-streets at that angle. This would boost capacity and turn around time on the entire 7th Ave express line. Finnaly, the IRT Utica Av doesnt have the provisions for having a IND Utica Av, so either one of two plans will have to happen: 1- Build a Eastern Pkwy Station under the 3/4 and have a steep incline back up to Empire Blvd so it can be able to portal out wherever (originally I thought it was going to portal out at Empire Blvd but I guess im wrong). Have it dip underground just long enough to have its platforms below the 18 Ave station (dont want to add any elevated curves) and then rise up for Ditmas whose support structure was designed for four tracks. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. Your 3/4 routing doesnt work anymore. As for late nights and weekends why not just extend the 6? The 8th Ave Subway was designed to replace the 9th Ave El, the 6th Ave and 2nd Ave Subways to replace elevateds running above their avenues. The station opened on August 23, 1920, as part of an extension of the IRT Eastern Parkway Line by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company. Most of the subway system in New York City no longer has that feel . [16], The IRT Eastern Parkway Line was built as part of Route 12 from 1915 to 1918. That gives you much more cacapity to work with than just the 10 tph you be stuck with via your plan (assuming you mean to have it be the Queens Blvd branch of 2nd Ave). The point is that anything involving using an extension of B Division is more complicated, for no reason, than just extending the IRT. Yes, it would take ages for New York to make the Plan for Action setup even remotely possible, but the fact is that the smaller size of the IRT inherently bottlenecks passenger capacity (as known by Lexington Avenue) and also is an operational pain-in-the-neck, since the IRT cant use IND platforms. W 34 St and 7th Ave, W 33 St and 7th Ave, W 32 St and 7th Ave. One island platform, two side platforms. And thats a jump I dont think we could ever make. When the IRT built the Eastern Parkway Line between 1915 and 1918 they built into it a provision for a future branch down Utica Ave (the IRT, in fact, built its entire Brooklyn section with many provisions for future expansion that either never happened or ended up being built by a competing company). Most of southeast Brooklyn is built out already, the new development would require upzoning and will take time. I grant you C outright; shorter trains being more maneuverable in yards. Then a tunnel would have to be built just outside the station. Everything else is a single or double story commercial or light industrial building, parking lot, and one school. This is why I say do IRT now and level provisions for the future. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. Why is it diverging to face the Bay Ridge Branch? The station spacing was done to keep costs down. Subway prematurely. Im not opposed to interlining but given the unique layout of the Rogers Junction the only affordable option is to segregate the services. Abandoned Jerome Post Office (Jerome) This mile-high town in the Black Hills of Yavapai County was once a thriving mining community where rich stores of copper, gold and silver ore were discovered in the late 19 th century. This leaves the possibility of resurrecting the Worth St Line, a branch off the 8th Ave local that would split south of Canal St and head east via Worth St and East Broadway. because Im so taken with the main idea of applying a new technique to BED-STUY, BROOKLYN A person was hit and killed by a train at Utica Avenue station in Bed-Stuy on Wednesday morning, according to the MTA and FDNY. Passangers want a train for the East and West Sides.By switching the 3 and 5 youre forcing passangers to make a crossover at Franklin when they could easily just have a one seat ride from Utica or Flatbush Av. 480-foot B locals are actually 31 feet shorter than IRT local trains yet have more room because theyre wider. Remember, the Astoria line was originally built to IRT standards but was converted to BMT loading gauge (by shaving the wooden platforms) so that the N/R (depending on the era) could go direct to Astoria. The subway itself would run straight down Utica Ave with potential stations at Empire Blvd, Linden Blvd-Church Ave and Clarendon Rd. Eliminating the bottleneck and interlining will improve frequency at Franklin so the transfer wont take too long. Av D/Utica Av is 480 yards away, 6 min walk. I have two comments. We dont need to tear down the EL. The second plan would be far cheaper but would require that only local trains have access to Nostrand Ave while the express trains would split past the junction so that half would continue as locals and the other would run express. Theres nothing stopping that since it runs at a lower frequency. Hey, that was me. And D, when the line is being built, less lanes will have to be teared up. IRT 4 or 5 express will have higher headways than Fulton anyway you slice it so the smaller cars are offset with more of them. The important thing about the shorter option is that installing these switches could be done overnight or over a weekend and wouldnt require long term, disruptive construction. Eastern Parkway & Utica Avenue. You know those 44 tph the current arrangement allows? With more TPH there will be less crowding at Franklin or Nevins. Subway, local station, ADA accessible (ONLY northbound 6) 59 St. E 60 St and Lexington Ave, E 59 St and Lexington Ave, E 60 St and 3rd Ave. Four side platforms. Crown Heights-Utica Avenue is a station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. It looks to be about two miles long. el structures around Broadway Junction. Parkchester on the 6. Between this station and Ralph Avenue, there is a fifth track between the express tracks, which could be used for storage or turning trains, although it is not normally used. The current (M) does just fine providing a one-seat ride to Midtown, and riders on the (J) can just transfer. The only [9] Above is a disused portion of a mezzanine and an unfinished upper level station. Alon Levy did a back-of-the-napkin estimate of how much a mostly elevated line would cost and found it a better cost per rider than even 2nd Ave. For future expansion of the system we need to be open to thinking outside the box. These look less industrial than plain Also (while a 4 track yard is good for Relay past Brooklyn College.) Noise complaints, and B46 would have to be detoured. Maybe Im reading too much into the zip code graphs but they both indicate that the majority of jobs in midtown Manhattan are in the center and western parts, not to the east. Before the renovation of this station in 1995, it was possible to see the unfinished station from the mezzanine. Even the New Lots branch doesnt have a third track and you could argue it needs one more than this. Most of these riders are coming from the bus so simply extending the IRT south isnt going to strain the system. This would suggest that even if the full line was to be built most riders would be transferring to trunk lines headed to downtown rather staying on to midtown via Williamsburg. Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Subway to Williamsburg Bridge proposal.. Some of your points might show good benefits of IRT use but only in part. [7] The first section opened on January 9, 1908, extending the subway from Bowling Green to Borough Hall. Between Avenue O and Fillmore St is an MTA bus maintenance facility which can be rebuilt to have a small yard on the roof. I think I can solve that problem and still have a train servicing East NY&Brownsville, Mill Basin, and Flatbush/East Flatbush. If not too difficult, another phase could be to make the new junction after the existing Utica Avenue station so that, instead of switching between New Lots and Clarendon Road, there be a third switch to the north with an extension up to Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, utilizing the existing shell and completing it, while switching it to an IRT width. The Flushing Line viaduct cleans up real nice [30] In 2015, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced his proposal for an extension of the 3 and 4 trains down Utica Avenue. Charlestown USA Outlet Mall (Utica) This old, abandoned, former mill site was once one of the first shopping centers to locate in the Mohawk Valley. Youre less likely to be the goat. Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College is 2338 yards away, 28 min walk. Small black tile captions reading "UTICA" in white lettering on a black background run below the trim line at regular intervals. are refurbished as well as adopted in new construction. While cost is an obvious reason for building an elevated over a subway there are also geological concerns in this area as the land through which Utica Ave runs has a very high water table and very sandy soil. Off-center over roadway. Run it through there to the Culver line where it can be the additional service that justifies reopening the express level. In California money itd be about 2. [19][20], In 1981, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority listed the station among the 69 most deteriorated stations in the subway system. In fact I am writing this today because I want to get ahead of whatever the official plan might state; I have very little faith in MTA planners and I feel that anything they release will be overly designed in a way so that its D.O.A. Double-deck single tracks. Just skip it. However, if such a public-private partnership could be established and developers enlisted to build the stations then a couple more could be added. Touring: F train to East Broadway. Yes, and I mentioned that in the article. Excellent nonetheless. Im not suggesting building an extension of the Crosstown Subway or tearing down the Broadway El, that is merely a reproduction of the 1931 IND plan. One of the main reasons that the City wanted to build the IND was to replace the existing elevated lines which were old, slow, and unpopular as they cast streets in shadow and soot. station count on BWY7 and 8AV between 110th and 72nd. In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. The first instance I can find of a proposal for Utica comes from a NY Times article in 1913 where residents were debating the best route. The new IND subway replaced the BMT Fulton Street El. Between Fulton St and Eastern Parkway the crest of the ridge which runs along Long Island rises 52 feet. mind=the same In your next post, could you talk about a potential Fordham-Ozone Park line served by the 2nd Ave Subway? And also, what will take the (B)s place as the Brighton Express? The point is that focusing on just the Utica Ave section alone could make this project shovel ready while 2nd Ave Phase 3 is still a pipe dream. much cheaper and fits the mtas little goes a long way attitude. By the early 1920s, its population had swelled to more than 10,000. By the way Vanschnooken, I really like your operations-focused outlook; I like that you used your custom track map as a base for all of the ideas you proposed, since tweaking your operations is usually a lot cheaper and effective in the long run. In the 1929 plan, one set of tracks would have led down Stuyvesant Ave., crossing the IND Fulton St. Line at Utica Ave. where another shell station and some unused mezzanines live and continuing down Utica Ave. and to Marine Park. They are not evenly shared. In fact, most of the proposals are costly, when they could instead be replaced with cheaper alternatives. From the South 4th St station to Eastern Parkway is another 3 miles which would parallel the existing J/M/Z trains. This final station is worth considering because even though half the catchment area is parkland and the Mill Basin canal the station would serve the popular Kings Plaza Mall and there is space for a modern bus terminal for better service around southeastern Brooklyn and to the Rockaways. There is an active tower at the south end of the platform while a closed one exists on the east of the lower level. The Livonia Avenue branch line, known as Route No. An elevated extension known as Route No. 6. But thats not necessarily for the bad. Gov. Despite this residents of southern and southeastern Brooklyn would continually oppose any plan that involved elevated trains (even extensions of the Nostrand Ave Line as an elevated were blocked). Adding another train to Queens Blvd is a problem. Trains are one of the oldest forms of transportation out there, which means abandoned depots are scattered all across the country. and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. Great idea. Look at the ceiling from the open platform, and at the mezzanine area at the north end. As for the bus Im sure it will go back to being local but if the demand is there for SBS (especially thru Bed Stuy) theres nothing stopping it from remaining. Its got limitations now, sure. That has what, a current limitation of 26 tph? Off-road (Chicago style). These technological limitations were shortly overcome and the only IRT line that doesnt use part of this original line is the 7 which is limited by the Steinway Tunnel. Taking this one step further this also supposes that, as the Worth St Line was to serve a similar catchment area as the BMT Centre Street Line (J train) that the new subways through the Lower East Side would replace the Centre St Line, thus leaving it up for abandonment (if this seems too preposterous keep in mind that half of this line is already, for all intents and purposes, abandoned). I do like the general arc of this post, although there is one bit I find a bit questionable; > Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Might fit in with narrow streets with tall buildings? With it both 2/3 trains would only go to Brooklyn College while 5 trains would serve the local stations, Nostrand Ave, Kingston Ave, and Utica Ave before turning south to Kings Plaza, while 4 trains would stay express to Utica Ave and take over service to New Lots. It will be express. I also think that building Utica would take some ridership away form Nostrand (those whom transfer via bus) so we should focus on Utica and then see what Nostrand looks like. This is to avoid overcrowding issues at Franklin/Nevins, and to provide more alternatives along each corridor. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius There is actually going to be a place to connect that will be much easier; the Second Avenue Subways current iteration is supposed to have lower level storage tracks from 21st to 9th Sts. The transit desert is along Utica Ave south of Eastern Parkway. 5 all times except late nights, 6. [11]:194[7], On March 19, 1913, New York City, the Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company, and the IRT reached an agreement, known as the Dual Contracts, to drastically expand subway service across New York City. Despite its name, this station has no exit to the corner of Utica Avenue and Eastern Parkway. Though Id suggest building a peak direction track on Utica Similar to the 6 and 7 lines. on Jamaica Ave to burrow the Broadway El into Fulton Lines station. But what Im proposing, and what Im sure no City plan would dare propose, is that the line not run above the center of the avenue such as existing elevated but rather along private land on the west side of the street. While both the Eastern Parkway and Fulton Lines were designed for future Utica Ave expansion the Fulton Line was designed to have Utica as a separate line entirely while Eastern Parkway was designed to have Utica branch off. Also if most people are going to midtown (which Id argue given the census data I show isnt the case) then there is nothing in the way of this with the new routing. But for Brooklyn, maybe 4? Jamaica Center would probably be a notch or two higher if it had been designed as terminal and could handle all E train runs. Viaducts where possible. With IRT you are constrained slightly but smoothing out the Rogers Junction gives you more to work with and if Utica proves more popular than New Lots then you could run some special 4 trains down there at rush hour. Knowing the reality of MTA construction I would argue that the second plan is the preferable option. PATH. This is the level of transit that buses provide for a fraction of the cost. The junction is built awkwardly where the tunnels are twisting in such a way to become bi-level. IRT Utica only needs a simple switch added to Rogers Junction to start running. The Manhattan plans remained the same, but the line east from South 4th Street would continue on only to Marine Park via Utica Ave. South of Kings Highway, due to the aforementioned geological issues, the line would have to be elevated. We dont need to build out some perfect system when IRT is good enough. In the intermediate level of the mezzanine, the closed section of the mezzanine was blocked only by a chain-link fence. Its a dense, transit dependent corridor with a recently opened and popular Select Bus Service line and the Utica Ave stations on the 3/4 and A/C have some of the highest ridership on their respective lines. In fact Id discount any curve adjacent to a station by about 50%. Theyll meet up down the road. The MTA has only been making these small extensions, the last major one (affected more than 3 lines) was in 1967-1968, which changed the BB, T, TT, D, F, JJ, M, MM, and the QT, and added the QJ, B, and KK. If we are going to think outside the box, we ust consider the people who will be having trains running through their buildings while a stop is not even placed within walking distance. I realize it looks like Im being hypercritical but thats Past Clarendon Rd the line would split with two tracks peeling east to a new yard facility built along the LIRR Bay Ridge line (requiring land taking). This would be the beginning of the IND plan which would ultimately propose extending a branch of the 6th Ave Subway through Williamsburg and down Utica Ave. There is another part of the IND plan which, as far as I can tell, no one has figured out or brought up yet. You could replace Lafayette Ave with a new station that joins the fray and then shares track with the R. All tunnels built after the original subway were built to B Division standards. With these and the IRT provisions in place Utica Ave was always so tantalizingly close. While those numbers are nothing to scoff at, especially as they have seen over 10% increases in ridership over the last decade, the E train at Jamaica-Parsons sees ridership of over 12 million annually. So heres my workup for a design toolkit of el popularizing methods: 1. The first plan offers the highest operational flexibility and allows a continuation of both local and express trains to access Nostrand Ave but would cost close to $1 billion and require extensive excavation. Let's take a trip down memory lane to explain why. I would love to see a post about a light rail system , Not very sure about the constraints of light rail (besides politicians lol) You took the time to write a response but not to read what I wrote? The Crown HeightsUtica Avenue station is an express station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. The tracks are outlined by a pattern in the ceiling on top of the four trackways at the Utica Avenue station; therefore it appears that there are four trackways and two island platforms running diagonally across the ceiling in the center. Hey, me again. Artwork here was made in 1996 by Jimmy James Green and is called Children's Cathedral. [10] The unfinished upper level station was to be built for a subway line down Utica Avenue as part of the IND Second System.[11]. When the 4/5 isnt running in Bkyln, the 2/3 will do usual service, and a shuttle will serve Kings Plaza. The New Lots branch of the IRT ascends to the surface right after it leaves Eastern Parkway (due very much to the terrain) and it would make sense that the IRT would have the Utica Line do the same. "Not a lot of people get to see this area," said Doug Nintzel with the . With subway costs so high els may be the only way to go. Subway, local and express station, ADA accessible. Ive thought of three more elevated footprint lightening techniques; these are all actually in use right now: 9. There is also sporadic 2 and 5 service during rush hours. This station's mezzanine and exterior can be seen in various points of 6ix9ines music video for the song "Kooda". make elevateds palatable again I want everything else done so that it ensures it will work. Given that the L is now the busier of the two lines and needs relief, badly, it would be much more sensible IMO to go east across E 7 St to stations at Tompkins Square Park, Metropolitan/Bedford, Hope/Union (G) (L), Humboldt/Montrose (L), and Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), to provide a faster alternative to the L. I dont really think theres much value in duplicating Broadway services just because S 4 St exists. What do you figure the cost of the subway portion of the line to be? 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