textus receptus vs septuagint

Allen notes that the actual text of Hippocrates in Galens day was essentially the same as that of the mediaeval MSS [just as] the text of [Homer in] the first century B.C. Looking forward to reading more of your articles. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Majority Text scholars take a more mathematical approach to deciding what the original text of the New Testament was. I am very thankful to have found your work. First, lets look at a passage that will become important to understanding these two verses. I believe there are a great number of such documents or manuscripts. Again, lets assume you were in charge of copying the New Testament with several manuscripts to choose from, say five. Listen to this: The KJV is a translation of an edition of the Greek New Testament text called the Textus Receptus. It shouldnt come as a surprise, but we dont have the original documents that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, and other New Testament writers wrote. This will definitely be my go to when I need to refresh my memory about the mysterious M, NU footnotes in my bible . But I find your interpretation of Psalms 12, while correct in a literal sense, wrong in a prophetical sense. The Textus Receptus is Latin for Received Text. Now, I think they are overstating the case slightly (as youll see when we look at Codex Sinaiticus). They believe that over time good manuscripts will push out bad manuscripts. Thank you. In fact, the primary author/editor of the modern Critical Text (Kurt Aland) said this: B is by far the most significant of the uncials Kurt Aland, Source: The Text of the New Testament By Aland, (Note: Uncials is the plural of uncial, which refers to an all capital font. But is the shorter reading more probable? (or which version of the TR if you mean the TR?). 9 For also, man wasnt created for woman, but woman for man. How does this article fold in with the Best Bible Version article? He published thousands of pages of scholarship on the Bible including the first five volumes in the standard critical text edition of the Septuagint. A theoretical presumption indeed remains that a majority of extant documents is more likely to represent a majority of ancestral documents at each stage of transmission than vice versa [but this] presumption is too minute to weight against the smallest tangible evidence of other kinds. He promised us that He would preserve even the very words. which is every-thing in red. It has been preserved for all time (I Peter 1:23; Psalm 12:6-7; Ps. These errors of parablepsis and haplography are commonly known and well-documented. However important the early papyri, or a particular uncial, or a minuscule may be, there is no single manuscript or group or manuscripts that can be followed mechanically, even though certain combinations of witnesses may deserve a greater degree of confidence than others. Lets say 2 or 3 scribes start making changes to suit their own theological biases. (Youll know this is especially true of Greek if youve read my A Few Fun Things About Biblical (Koine) Greek article) Another example: perhaps one document will only have Christ and another only has Jesus. But the Romans 16:25-27 and 14:24-26 text are identical. But here again the principle cannot be applied mechanically. O Jerusalem, IT is a better translation of the somewhat corrupt TR than the KJV. What was my surprise to find amid this heap of papers a considerable number of sheets of a copy of the Old Testament in Greek, which seemed to me to be one of the most ancient that I had ever seen. The consistency is excellent, but we dont know on which manuscripts it was originally based. I hope that helps. Their text was heavily based on the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus. Posted July 16, 2008. I gave it a look and was far from impressed. The emphasis is clearly on the written Word that was preached (see 4:1-2) and is emphasizing it as a promise not a person. Confirms what I had already come to believe, but with a lot of supporting information. Now, its clear God did preserve His scriptures extremely well over the years. He lived in the late 1800s and early 1900s. It is a great Bible for reading and study too and i am thoroughly enjoying it. Thats a bad idea. The Confessional Position says the God must have kept (the scriptures) pure in all ages. The manuscript is believed to have been housed in Caesarea in the 6th century, together with theCodex Sinaiticus, as they have the same unique divisions of chapters in Acts. Are you aware that that is a myth, or at least that that assertion has been shown of many to be false? You do not understand the context of Hebrews 4:12 at all. However, we dont have to guess, as Peter under the Holy Spirits inspiration explicitly applied this passage to Jesus. In this system, Codex Vaticanus is also called manuscript B, and Codex Sinaiticus is also called manuscript (aleph, which is the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet). ) Both Textual Variants are meaningful, but its nearly impossible for them to be original (they arent viable). I think if you want to be a textual critic. But I would give them all up to dispel the confusion and go back to studying the original languages, which I use Jewish-English, an LXX-English translation, and a lexicon to do. (He was the primary editor of the modern Critical Text, which is the basis for nearly all modern translations. I dont know what to tell you to change your mind. However, well only concentrate on the two most influential. The Reasoned Eclecticism theory created the modern Critical Text (NA28/UBS5), which is what most modern New Testaments are based on. By any conceivable metric (except age), Codex Sinaiticus is one of the worst manuscripts that weve found. At what time did they stop having confidence that they knew the text they had was pure? Further and I cant stress this enough there is more to the Majority Text theory than simply counting manuscripts. 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 (WEB) It is trying to explain Gods promises away because you dont feel they can possibly be true based on the human evidence you have seen and studied. Codex Sinaiticus was found by a man named Lobegott Friedrich Constantin (von) Tischendorf, at St. Catherines monastery at the foot of Mount Sinai. Novum testamentum Graece, The German biblical scholar Constantin von Tischendorf (1815-74) published his monumental eighth edition of the Greek New Testament between 1869 and 1872. Your article referring back to the early church fathers is especially important. They have been made available to every generation (Psalm 33:11; Psalm 100:5; Psalm 119:89-90; Isaiah 59:21). He writes inChurch History(VIII:2): All these things were fulfilled in us, when we saw with our own eyes the houses of prayer thrown down to the very foundations, andthe Divine and Sacred Scriptures committed to the flamesin the midst of the market-places, and the shepherds of the churches basely hidden here and there, and some of them captured ignominiously, and mocked by their enemies. The litmus verse in 1 Cor is classically Critical-Text butchered but they also have the virgin option written in the inline notes for the verse (these are footnotes in a cheap printed binding of this version which I have of this text). He used the mathematical structure of Greek to figure out which variants were the original using the Weston Hort as a reference. They did have some very solid points! Why Are Women Emotional According to the Word? The Textus Receptus below is designed to be usable in Word 97 or higher. Very Helpful It wasnt until he focused on the shield of faith that clarity and direction were restored. Thank you for all of your hard work and youre opinion and your honesty! In the end, the greatest strength of the Critical Text is also its greatest weakness: mans involvement. Indeed the mans head must not be covered as Paul instructs. Again, they believed that the Byzantine Text type was a combination of the Alexandrian and Western text types. Now, about the quality of Codex Sinaiticus. It simply means He has promised to preserve His Word for His true church in every generation. A reading that shows better grammar at the expense of theology is likely not original. I just dont believe you have come to true conclusions. Irenaeus in the 2nd century, though not in Alexandria, made a similar admission on the state of corruption among New Testament manuscripts. Well talk more about this later. If you pick up any popular Bible (except the KJV and NKJV) its almost certainly translated primarily from the Alexandrian text type. Westcott & Hort believed the Byzantine text type was a combination of the Alexandrian and Western text types. I have gone back and forth myself on this issue. If mistakes were tenacious, then there would be very few singular readings because these mistakes wouldve been passed down to each successive manuscript. The transliterated Greek reads: dia touto opheilei h gun exousian echein epi ts kephals dia tous angelous. 1633 (Elzevir) edited by Jeremias Hoelzlin, Professor of Greek at Leiden. It is no exaggeration to say that Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus () are the foundation for virtually all modern New Testament Bible translations. Its so well known, its often just called Westcott & Hort. However important the early papyri, or a particular uncial, or a minuscule may be, there is no single manuscript or group or manuscripts that can be followed mechanically, even though certain combinations of witnesses may deserve a greater degree of confidence than others. We have it incredibly accurately. To be clear, the theory of Reasoned Eclecticism is very sound; its the application of it (thus far) that leaves something to be desired. I still have not settled on a position and am not sure I ever will. Also, Im still waiting for you to say which text/manuscript you think is inerrant. Its a basically byzantine textform, which I do like. Its not directly on the topic of adoptionism, but in my article on the Johannine Comma (1 John 5:7-8), I do point to evidence of tampering with the early manuscripts as a result of Arianism. It certainly seems like the kind of thing that could happen, but Id need to see more evidence (quotes from the source documents perhaps) or other sources. The western part of Christendom stopped using Greek as their primary language in the mid-1st millennium. Of the 18,000 Bibles he printed, only 3 of them remain today. For example. Because if you apply the same reasoning to Messianic prophecies in Psalms, it will show that those texts actually apply to David, not Jesus, etc. Only WEB has a 14:24-26. However, the majority of these manuscripts are later than Alexandrian manuscripts. Id suggest you look at that article for my thoughts. However, this will hopefully provide a better background for you when making your own decisions about source texts. Its easy to explain these variants when you see how these words are spelled in the Greek, so here are the first three words of the verse in each Textual Variant: Context tells us that npioi (little children) cant be intended, and since the previous word begins with n, its easy to see how the mistake was made (doubling the n). (As shown in the article), And by the way, I do have a high opinion of the TR and prefer it to the Critical text in many ways. This accidental skipping could account for a very significant portion of the longer Byzantine Textual Variants. It might be out there, but I havent see it. The too lively satisfaction which I had displayed had aroused their suspicions as to the value of this manuscript. I also recommend you read the article, since its a good primer on the basic structure of Greek. The fact that the Byzantine Text type dominates the manuscript copies is proof of disproportionate copying. (Greek words often have similar endings because of the nature of the Greek language.) My wife didnt sleep very well last night so shes still in bed or is she? One has to wonder why we have the WEB, when we have a New American Standard Bible updating the ASV. Unbelief in the Doctrine of Preservation is a weakness that can wedge a crack in faith in the Word of God. Prepare the way of the Lord; Some scholars would say he wasnt even middle of the pack. Thus, the theory goes that in most any given time span, the readings in a majority of manuscripts are most likely to reflect the original. Further, no Christian was ever born again through the Bible; we are born again through Jesus blood and His work on the cross. He worked for the University of Toronto from 1951 until his retirement in 1984. I will answer your questions in the same fashion that you have answered mine, and Im sure it will be as satisfying to you as your answers were to me. 5 Because of the devastation of the afflicted, because of the groaning of the needy, It gets copied and ends up in other manuscripts. To support this statement, White appealed to Kurt & Barbara Alands similar statement: Once a variant or a new reading enters the tradition it refuses to disappear, persisting (if only in a few manuscripts) and perpetuating itself through the centuries. 16 So the last will be first, and the first will be last.. You previously said we should use the TR, or KJV which is based on the TR. Im not pushing it and Im not saying its better; just that it shouldnt be dismissed out of hand. Theres good evidence that he had more manuscripts to choose from, but decided to use only those 7 (presumably because they were of the best quality, but we dont know for sure). Thank you. The WEB is the first major translation to use the Majority Text. While the text itself seems less liberal in many places, the places it is liberal are very important. There are only two reasons for this: (1) its nearly complete, (2) the older is better mantra. That said, they do seem to be of higher quality that other manuscripts of their respective eras. (Estienne was also known as Stephanus.) Thank you. You will preserve him from this generation forever. Quote; Link to comment Share on other sites. Accordingly the need of accounting for the eventual predominance of the medium text, when the critics are shown to have been incapable of producing it, leads us to assume a medium text or vulgate in existence during the whole time of the hand-transmission of Homer. However, proper context changes the sense radically. To dispel the confusion, Im going to quote from the primary source: the finders own account of how he found it. Further, all of these manuscripts which can be called the Textus Receptus contain unique readings not found in any other manuscripts whatsoever. These . The article was excellent and I appreciate the effort you put into compiling the information. The second is the comparison of the Masoretic text to the Greek translation called the Septuagint (or LXX), which was written around 200-150 B.C. The science of assembling these manuscripts is called "Textual Criticism", and you can consider this a complete Textual Criticism 101 article because we'll look at these topics in exhaustive detail. Despite the strong support weve just seen, the Majority Text theory does have some significant weaknesses. Kephal is found nine times in 1 Corinthians chapter 11. Could it be that the vision was but a vision, and the glory of the Face but a reflection of the ardent hopes of youth? Full NEB text is available online at site I linked below. Origen, the Alexandrian church father in the early third century, said: Origen is of course speaking of the manuscripts of his location, Alexandria, Egypt. My personal opinion is that the Majority text is an excellent starting point. However, theres a very big problem when someone makes a dogmatic doctrinal position without the support of scripture. That gives you some idea of how many more Bibles must have existed in the world. But I could not get them to yield up possession of the remainder. I've only just started looking at the CSB. And every mountain and hill brought low; The Textus Receptus is a 16th century Greek New Testament on which the King James Bible is based (in the New Testament). 1 Corinthians 11:10, which Ive copy/pasted below with verses 8-9 for a bit of context. Did God Preserve the Scriptures Perfectly in All Ages? Once the research was done, I just needed to type it up, which I do anyway to organize my thoughts. Only one reading can be original, however many variant readings there may be. Reasoned Eclecticism / Critical Text Conclusion, The Mathematical Case for The Majority Text, However, Some say this mathematical model is Wrong. Regardless of the third quotation they bring up, why is it ridiculous if thats what Erasmus explicitly stated he did, and included this statement in his annotations, and gave the reason why he included it in his annotations? I also cover the other major verses used to support the doctrine of preservation. The Confessional Position is the exact opposite. Thank you for this, I learned a lot. there are only 2 streams of bible versions, the true text of the textus receptus (majority text) on which the king james version is based, and those which picked up the alexandrian manuscripts (minority text), the codex alexandrian, codex sinaiticus and codex vaticanus which have been shown to have deleted and changed many parts of the text and This isnt altogether uncommon with ancient manuscripts, but it does mean some places represent a 10th or 11th century version, not a 4th century version. Among the existing manuscripts of the New Testament, there are three major divisions based on their content. Textus Receptus is Latin for "Received Text." It was used as the textual base for the vernacular translations that arose during the Reformation period. There are definitely places in the Textus Receptus that are wrong, and we know this from manuscripts weve found that they didnt have access to then, but overall its a very good document. The Textus Receptus is not just the half-dozen manuscripts of Erasmus. (I did also recommend the NKJV). A lot of people claim the TR is inerrant, what about before the 1500s? Any further input that you have would be appreciated. Because Im Second, this is Matthew 24; nearly the entire chapter is prophecy. Get the free IP.Board App for iPhone now! However, real Textual Criticism with a set of rules still must be applied. There remains a persistent bias against the Byzantine Text type in the Critical text, which is very unfortunate. Wow! According to WEBs rules, that person should rename his Bible translation. And thats not all the singular readings. However, you must uncheck four boxes in the AutoCorrect option on the Tools menu in Word 97+. Our hope must be anchored in Gods Word! But we proved to be gentle among you, as a nursing mother tenderly cares for her own children. As a result, there are parts of Revelation in the KJV/NKJV not supported by a single Greek manuscript. word text to the second, However, getting to the original text of the Bible is rather like striving to be righteous; well never get there but that doesnt mean the struggle is in vain. Taken literally, you are saying that the pure Word of God was originally inspired, but no one today could ever claim to hold that pure Word in their own hands. Thankyou so much for all your research and sharing your knowledge. On which manuscript(s) should we base our translations? At this time I consider myself a textus receptus guy and find his position interesting. Further, the NASB uses a modern reprint of the exact same text underlying the KJV. The Greek word epi when used with the genitive as in ts kephal means over or upon. Read reviews from world's largest community for readers. If so, youll need a good reason to exclude the various versions. We're happy to have you here, please browse all our site and listen to our stream, feel free to check out our schedule for your favorite shows and programs. All who will receive Him (meaning through Gods grace are given faith to accept Him as Savior, Lord, and God of their life) are saved from the condemnation of their sins. It gets copied and ends up in other manuscripts, Once a variant or a new reading enters the tradition, showing that five important early manuscripts combine to produce a total of. The medium Byzantine text with its near identical form for 1000+ years is ignored, and the shorter Alexandrian text is preferred. Jesus Himself said it was fulfilled when he said It is finished on the cross. So that we could not mistake His intentions, the Lord made clear to what degree He would keep the Scriptures pure. Long = characterized by Scribal improvement and expansion. Over a quarter (16) of the incorrect manuscripts will only have a single mistake, most of the rest will only have 2-3. The Westminster Confession of Faith & The Doctrine of Preservation. God bless! I really enjoyed reading your thorough treatment above; Because theres not a Snapp Eclectic Greek NT and a related English translation of the SEGNT, Im less sure what it means in practical terms of buying a Bible and which actual Bible your analysis would lead you to pick off the shelf? This is a well-known, well-documented scribal error, even having its own name. For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. So of course the NKJV has differences with the KJV in the underlying text since no one knows exactly what the KJV translators used. He remembered the Vision in the Chapel of Voices, and the many times when that Vision had gleamed before him since, ever to sustain and cheer, even with the promise of the goal. Again, it simply doesnt matter which is original because theres no impact on meaning. So yeah, its WAY more complicated than that article makes it seem. Thank you again. There is at least one nearly complete text of the LXX, Codex Alexandrinus. The typical examples of how to break this model are well-covered in this YouTube video. on the blue letter bible (blb) website, the interlinear tool lets you compare translations of the new testament (word by word) to either the textus receptus (tr) or the morphological greek new testament (mgnt); depending on whether or not the base greek text of the translation you're examining is the tr (king james/new king james) or the mgnt They are especially frequent in the Septuagint portion. Welcome to Mood FM Belize 106.3! A glance at the transcription will show just how common these corrections are. In any case, there are no NT readings based on the critical text in the NKJVwell, maybe one that looked suspicious. Weve just seen that it doesnt originate in the scriptures. Thank you. Thank you for your labor of love for the body of Christ. The Confessional Position maintains that God must have perfectly preserved the Bible pure in all ages. Family 35 doesnt include any Uncials and I believe the oldest manuscript in the family is late-ish; early second millennium. The [fourth-century] text of Chrysostom and other Syrian [= Byzantine] fathers [is], must have had in the greater number of extant variations, The overwhelming majority of readings, almost all variants, and practically all the substantive variants in the text of the New Testament, The criticism of the Homeric epics proceeds on much the same line, The shorter form in Homer is considered to reflect Alexandrian critical know-how and. Textus receptus vs alexandrian text. http://www.westernrecorder.org/825.article. The idea that Scribes chose to copy better manuscripts makes perfect sense. Great work! 7 You, O LORD, will keep them; Though the earliest work was prepared by Desiderius Erasmus, his work was later revised by Robert Estienne (or, Stephanus) and further revised by Theodore Beza. The Tetragrammaton (over 6,800 times in the OT) will be rendered as Yahweh. Its curious that Codex Vaticanus is given the position of most important when the actual quality of the transcription leaves something to be desired. (Matthew 3:3, Mark 1:3, Luke 3:4-6, John 1:23) Luke also applies verses 4-5 to the Messianic age. (Well come back to it later.). The AV translators relied heavily upon the work of William Tyndale and other editions of the English Bible. from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1946 and taught there for five years. Literally, Jesus became our substitute in death for sin on the cross by shedding His blood for our redemption and remission of sins, so that repentant believers will trust Him for life everlasting. the Majority Texts (Textus Receptus), and . The best translations article is much more practical. This is the Greek New Testament edited by B. F. Westcott and F. J. Well assume two scribes copy correctly and one incorrectly. Matthew 20:16 New King James Version (NKJV) Not at all. I decided to take a middle road on the manuscript count, since its still debatable but leans towards him having more. You still havent answered my question about a specific manuscript, since the Ecclesiastical Text has a few nuances of meaning depending on who you ask. Any form of eclecticism which accepts this principle will hardly succeed in establishing the original text of the New Testament; it will only confirm the view of the text which it presupposes. One of the most striking traits of the New Testament textual tradition is its tenacity. Aland & Aland,The Text of the New Testament, p. 56. The table below shows the texts from which Erasmus assembled his Greek New Testament. (Assuming they had multiple manuscripts to choose from.). By an Alexandrian Church fathers own admission, manuscripts in Alexandria by 200 AD were already corrupt. Psalms 100:5 (KJV): For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations. JavaScript is disabled. Lift it up, be not afraid; The Septuagint text is the text that the Church has preserved. (search at the top) Its very useful and helpful, plus beginner friendly. Thus your eye jumps from From another article on the topic: However, Hort acknowledged that such a clear-cut genealogical model would be out of place if a transmission-model persistently involved readings which all had some clearly ancient attestation. So lets say one of Pauls letter arrives at your church and youre supposed to pass it on. BTW: Ive enjoyed our robust conversations. Ive been running a WEB/ASV parallel Bible and the WEB cleverly updates the ASV, without sacrificing accuracy. Quoted from biblemegasite.com. Received his Th.D. However, it is also important to consider the nature of those differences. You next reply could be 2-3 words long, just enough to give the name of the manuscript and that would be fine but which manuscript that we have is absolutely and entirely inerrant? We have 5000+ manuscripts of the New Testament, though many are smaller fragments. Okay, heres my question for you: which single document that we have contains the complete, inerrant New Testament without any issues at all? Textual critics want us to believe it needed an overhauled. There were already ten major periods of persecution of Christians before Nicea: One of the most ruthless of these persecutions was that of Diocletian in the early 4th century. An inspired Bible that was not preserved would be little more than a tainted book of history and moral lessons. ); He has not left them to wonder which words are Gods Words. Is this true? NETS Committees Accessed March 26, 2011. While the Confessional Position holds no water, the Textus Receptus itself is a very good document. When two copies disagree with each other, you have a variant in the text between two documents: this is (unsurprisingly) called a Textual Variant. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. And His arm shall rule for Him; This translation will be available by the end of year 2021. If you believe man can determine the mind of God by trying their best to reconstruct the original text, then you believe God has failed us. The Textus Receptus goes back to the early Christians. His work was largely ignored during his lifetime but the English Standard Version largely agrees with his translation. Additionally, That question above is the whole problem for me, or at least most of it. Therefore, roughly 4 out of every 5 verses (81.3%) in one manuscript disagrees in at least one place in the other. The single most common textual variant is called a moveable Nu, with Nu being the Greek letter which sounds like our N. It is easier to read than the ASV, yet the WEB stays close to the Rock of Biblical Honesty. So, some information first. This created a need for Bible translations in people's native languages. The Feminist in Pauls day shaved their heads too. The oldest more or less complete Septuagint manuscripts are Codex Vaticanus (4th century AD) and Codex Alexandrinus (5th century AD). Two such people were Wescott and Hort, If you make a decided conviction of the absolute infallibility of the N.T, I fear I could not join you. But the book which has most engaged me is Darwin. Further, lets assume that each scribe accidentally made a different error while copying, as happens when copying by hand. Now that we know what Greek text the Confessional Position uses, lets take a closer look at the various scriptural passages they use to support the doctrine of Preservation (which says God kept His Scriptures pure in all ages). For now, lets look at the underpinnings for the Majority Text theory. The Greek word thats translated pass is (parerchomai). The Textus Receptus, In fact, the most common type of Textual Variant is spelling differences, often a single letter, Combined with the ones that arent meaningful, you have. The term Septuagint, meaning "seventy," actually refers to the seventy-two translatorssix from each tribe of Israelinvolved in translating the Pentateuch from Hebrew to Greek in the third-century BCE (seventy-two is rounded down to seventy, hence the Roman numeral LXX). Referring back to the early Christians ; this translation will be rendered as Yahweh mind. Heads too other editions of the Critical text, however many variant readings there may be they are the! 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